Coville's Clubhouse by Jamie Coville

Guest Interviewer Sidra Roberts

An Interview With Neil Gaiman

"Who’s Neil Gaiman?" I heard it several times through the course of the school year. Every time it set my teeth on edge. It’s not like he hasn't had a best-selling book in the last 2 years. This summer he was on the list for American Gods, which I started reading yesterday and is pretty good so far. But, I digress. Neil Gaiman was our guest of honor this year of AggieCon. Neil Gaiman is a very nice gentlemen. He made room for interviews, signings, and being an auctioneer at our Charity Auction at AggieCon. Interviewing him was a lot of fun. I hope you all enjoy it as much as I did. Also, a special thanks goes out to Stephane Morrell and Jamie Coville for assisting me with questions for Mr. Gaiman.

Sidra:

    So how did you get started writing?
Neil Gaiman:
    Actually doing pretty much what you’re doing. I worked as an interviewer chiefly for magazines in England in the early eighties. I was a book reviewer, a film reviewer and interviewed a lot of people for Time Out, Sunday Times Magazine, all those kinds of things. And also paid the rent by doing monthly interviews with celebrities for porno magazines, soft core things with titles like Knave, and the British version of Penthouse, things like that. I would do their interviews, and I would interview authors. What was nice about that was that they didn’t really care who I interviewed, because nobody actually bought it for the interviews. So knowing that nobody read it for the interviews they were like, "Yeah, whatever." I would say, "Can I interview this really interesting science fiction writer?" and they would say, "Sure." That was how I started. I wanted to be a writer, but I also knew that I wasn’t going to be able to pay the rent writing fiction. So, for me, that was very much a way of learning how to write.

Sidra:

    How did you get started in comicbooks?
Neil Gaiman:
    Around ‘85-’86 I sent my first book,Ghastly Beyond Belief to Alan Moore, because I was a fan of Alan’s. We became friends and when we actually met in the flesh, which was about 6 months later, I got him to show me what a comic script looked like. I then went off and wrote some. About 1986, I was approached by a guy who was starting a comic, an anthology comic, and I wrote a couple stories for him. Another person working for him was a guy named Dave McKean. Paul Gravett from Escape magazine came along and said, "I like what Neil is writing and I like what Dave is drawing," and asked us to do something for Escape which then became Violent Cases. We were halfway through that when some people from DC Comics came to England on a talent scouting expedition. So we showed them what we’d done so far and they said, "Ah, you are talented. You’ve just been scouted." We then went on to do Black Orchid, and I went on to do Sandman.

Sidra:

    Are Sandman or any of The Endless ever going to make a reappearance?
Neil Gaiman:
    Sure, I’m working on a graphic novel right now called Endless Nights, which with any luck will be out as a hardcover by the end of the year, if I don’t mess up my deadlines too badly.

Sidra:

    Are there still any movie plans based on the Endless? Or is that all pretty much dead?
Neil Gaiman:
    The thing about movies is that they never die. Sometimes they never live, but they tend to exist in this sort of Frankenstein-ian half-life. Often it can be a weird set of circumstances coming together that suddenly move something from being dead to being alive. I hope the Sandman movie is dead. I’ve seen about eight scripts and they just got progressively worse and worse until by the eighth, it didn’t resemble Sandman at all. I hope that never happens. I hope it never comes to fruition. Meanwhile, Death I think may well happen. I’m back on the second draft of the movie script. My trouble right now is just finding the time to make everything happen and make sure everything gets slotted in. When I made time for it last year, I got back the studio’s notes the day I started the American God tour. I did the American Gods tour for a couple of months and just as I was recovering from that, we got September 11th, and suddenly I didn’t feel like writing a funny story about Death in New York for a bit. But you know time passes and maybe I can include that.

Sidra:

    How is the progress coming along on the big screen adaptation of Good Omens with Terry Gilliam?
Neil Gaiman:
    As far as I know it’s okay, I don’t know. The impression I get right now is that Terry Gilliam really wants to make a movie, and the problem with Good Omens is that it’s a very expensive movie. The producers have been putting together the finances for it for three years, and it may take them another year to get the last piece of financing into position. So right now it’s Terry Gilliam’s number one movie, but if the financing doesn’t really happen, he will probably go on to do something else and come back to it.

Sidra:

    What was it like writing with Terry Pratchett for Good Omens?
Neil Gaiman:
    It was great. It was really fun, enormously fun. It was like a young craftsman apprenticed to a master craftsman. Terry knew how to write novels; he’d done it lots of times. I’d never done it before. So, he got to be sort of the master builder and I think, in a lot of ways, I got to have a lot more fun than he did. I got to do all the goofy bits off on the side. I got to do the four horsemen, and the other four horsemen of the apocalypse, funky weird little bits like Mister Fell’s Magic Show, wonderful, goofy, off the loop things.

Sidra:

    Can we expect to see you in comics again any time soon?
Neil Gaiman:
    Yeah, like I said I’m working on the Endless Nights graphic novel for DC, and I’m doing a project for Marvel called 1602 right now.

Sidra:

    Do you feel you've helped bring darker/macabre/unusual ideas to the forefront of today's culture?
Neil Gaiman:
    I suspect that if you went back in time and shot me in 1986 before Sandman and stuff you’d probably have something today that would be exactly recognizable as what it is today. I don’t think that me being gone would necessarily change very much about what we’ve got. I think we’ve got cultural impetus going in that way anyway. There are things that I look at and think," You’d probably wouldn’t have been the same if I hadn’t come along. If I hadn’t have done what I do, you probably would have never existed in the form that you are right now."

    Things from Dogma to Buffy, they would have been there but they would have been ever so slightly different, because culturally they had to take onboard what I was doing. But no, I don’t think that I really changed anything or did anything that huge. I’ve just sort of given people ideas that they might have encountered anyway in a slightly different form.

Sidra:

    How about breaking the need for superheroes in comicbooks?
Neil Gaiman:
    Well, they’re still there. Well, it’s interesting sometimes I have to go back and remind myself what things were like pre-Sandman. The rules pre-Sandman included things such as you weren’t allowed to do a comic without the main character on the front cover. I think what Sandman showed was that well written comics will sell. Sandman was probably, leaving aside Watchman and Dark Knight, the first monthly comic to demonstrate that critical success and commercial failure were not necessarily the same thing. The only other which came first was Alan Moore’s Swamp Thing, which was marvelous, but even that didn’t work on a commercial level at the time in the way that Sandman brought in a whole new generation of readers who didn’t know that they liked that sort of thing into comicbook stores. I think what is most bizarre about Sandman is that we are...what? 13 years after I wrote the first Sandman...something like that, and the graphic novels sell better than they ever did. They’re now in Borders and Barnes and Noble, and they’re now on Amazon.com. It’s funny, there was a guy in the signing line today who said, "I only found out about Sandman six months ago," and now there are people who are finding out about Sandman through comics like Lucifer. There’s always a generation of people who go, "I think comics could be interesting, but I don’t like this stuff and I don’t like that stuff," and someone will hand then a Sandman and suddenly they’re mine.

Sidra:

    Okay, this is a quirky question, but I promised my mom I’d ask it.
Neil Gaiman:
    Go ahead.

Sidra:

    How does it feel to be a goth chick magnet?
Neil Gaiman:
    I’m too old to be a goth chick magnet now. I don’t think anyone ever turns up at the signings thinking, "Oh my God, I’m here at the signing. I’m going to sleep with Neil Gaiman." They show up thinking, "I want him very much to sign my book," and if I’m lucky, I’ll get a hug. They get their hugs and they go away very happy. It’s pretty odd. In real life, I’m not a sex symbol of any kind. I do not turn heads walking down a street or anything like that. I remember one signing I did in Boston and there was a girl there who actually turned out to be a top model who was in the line, and I’d noticed her because she was someone with incredible physical beauty. She got to the front of the line and fainted, and I’m on the ground reviving her and thinking to myself, "You know, this is very strange."

Sidra:

    On your website you said during a conversation between Joe Quesada and Todd McFarlane, Todd said he would run a smear campaign against you if you didn't stop pushing the Miracle Man/Angela issue. Since you haven't stopped, have you seen signs of a smear campaign yet?
Neil Gaiman:
    Not yet, and I think it was meant to frighten me into shutting up, and actually it did the opposite. I was really sitting completely over the fence thinking, "Okay, do I really want to go legal on this? It takes up an awful lot of your time. I only have so much time. I only have so much time to write in. I have so much time to work in, so much time to be with my family. Do I want to sacrifice that time to a legal thing or not?" I was heading at that point, I think, to saying, "You know what? I’ll just let it go. I’ll swallow my pride. I will accept that I’ve been screwed, and I will get on to do more work." Then Joe says, "Well, this is the message from Todd," and Joe was really embarrassed to be relaying this "I’m going to find all the dirt on you and smear it around" message. I listened to that and I said, "I think I’m done. I think anybody who wants to move into that kind of territory, it’s time for him to start paying lawyer bills."

Sidra:

    Has a penciler for your Marvel Mini series been named yet?
Neil Gaiman:
    I don’t know, and that’s the trouble. It’s one of those things where I’m meant to say, "Well, if it’s already been named then I can tell you who it is, but it hasn’t been named so I have to keep it secret." But I don’t actually know if he’s been named or not.

Sidra:

    Is there a name for the mini-series yet?
Neil Gaiman:
    1602.

Sidra:

    What characters are you doing in the mini series and in what issues?
Neil Gaiman:
    I’m afraid the only answer that would make any sense at all would be really wait and see. Partly because I’m not really sure who’s going to get into it. Although I’m getting a fair idea on everyone and where they’re going to be. I’m working very hard at outlining this, only so that I don’t get to issue six and go, "Oh DAMN, this is going to be a seven issue miniseries," because it would look really weird putting 1 of 6, 2 of 6, 3 of 6, 4 of 6, 5 of 6, 6 of 7.

At some point during the interview, me with my normal grace, dropped my list of questions and had to bend under the table to pick it up. To quote Neil, "[my dress] is built for many things but bending over is not one of them." Sidra:

    Is Marvel and Miracle straightening out each others claims of ownership regarding Miracle Man or is it strictly Todd McFarlane's portion that you're trying to work out?
Neil Gaiman:
    There are definitely other claims on Miracle Man, many of which I suspect are very valid. Alan Davis has complained that Eclipse essentially ripped him off, which from all I know they may very well have done. What I want to do with Miracle Man, if possible, is bring it all back into print in a way that means that all of the original copyright holders, all of the creators are getting paid for what they did, getting royalties. I want them to have their work out and have them be cool with it being out. Nothing is going to get published without the permission of the people who created it.

Sidra:

    What are you doing at the moment and what are you gong to be putting out soon?
Neil Gaiman:
    What I’m doing right now is sitting here being interviewed by you at a con in Texas. I just finished a script, a movie script. An adaptation of a novel by Nicholson Baker called The Fermata. That’s what I finished last week. I’m now back onto the Death movie, 1602, and the next one of the Endless Night Stories, which will be the Morpheous story which is going to be drawn by a wonderful Spanish artist named Miguelanxo Prado. I’m doing a short story for an anthology of stories about Caribbean magic, and probably several other things that I can’t think of right now.


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