Coville's Clubhouse by Jamie Coville

Guest Interviewer Sidra Roberts

Ruben DeLuna Interview

For my entire college career so far, there has been one reason and one reason alone to pick up the school newspaper-the comic Fish by Ruben DeLuna. It's funny, witty, and the really good strips just stick out in your head. I had the pleasure of meeting Ruben DeLuna when I was heading the registration booth for AggieCon. He came by the registration desk to buy a copy of the AggieCon T-shirt because his art was on it. He's a very nice guy and when I e-mailed and asked, he agreed to do an e-mail interview with me about his work on Fish. So without any further ado, here it is:

Sidra:

    How did you get interested in art?
Ruben DeLuna:
    I've pretty much been drawing as long as I can remember. I think I started getting interested in drawing around the age of four or five. My grandmother was a kindergarten teacher who could also draw and she would always make her own decorations for her classroom. She would always encourage me to be artistic and creative, and it's something I wound up really enjoying.

Sidra:

    How did you get interested in comics and cartoons?
Ruben DeLuna:
    When I was a kid, I used to make my own comic books. I would basically just take a bunch of sheets of paper, fold them in half, and staple them down the middle. I had my own made-up super heroes and villains that evolved as I got older. I would continue making comic books into high school just for fun. Now I think most of them can be found scattered around various places at my house.

    I actually didn't really ever get interested in making comic strips till high school. There was a comic strip contest for our school newspaper that only came out like every two months. I ended up winning, probably because I was one of the only ones who entered, and my comic strip got printed. The comic I submitted actually had a boy character named Scoot, who I would later carry over to "Fish".

Sidra:

    How did you come up with the idea of Fish?
Ruben DeLuna:
    When I found out that I would be doing the comic strip for the newspaper, it was the end of my freshman year. So my initial thought was to just write what I know. So I made all the characters freshman, hence the name "Fish". I didn't want to have a gimmicky comic strip, just basically normal college students that hopefully people would identify with.

Sidra:

    When did you decide you wanted to publish Fish?
Ruben DeLuna:
    Well, I didn't create the comic strip first and then seek out a place to publish it. It actually kind of happened in reverse order. I saw an ad in The Battalion taking applications for cartoonists, and even though I had no ideas at the time for comic strips, I thought it might be a fun job to apply for. So the comic actually arose out of a need to have some sample comics to submit with my application.

Sidra:

    When you started Fish did you have any idea that it would be as popular as it is?
Ruben DeLuna:
    Not at all. It's actually still surprising to me that people even read it at all. I would get an occasional email from people telling me they liked the comic, but I still never thought that many people paid attention to it. It wasn't really until the compilation book came out and I got a decent number of sales that I got an inkling that a more general audience of people liked the comic. It's all very flattering and I did try hard to put out a quality comic, but I think I had time on my side as well. I think the fact that the comic ran so long had a lot to do with the amount of exposure it got, and the odds were in my favor that people would eventually read it :)

Sidra:

    One thing you can see in the archive "Fish Out Of Water" is how your art style has evolved. What different techniques did you employ as the comic went on?
Ruben DeLuna:
    Well, most of the evolution of the art style was accidental. A lot of it had to do with me just getting more and more comfortable drawing the different characters. Some of the subtle changes also had to do with the breaks I would take in between semesters. There would be a period of time between the Spring and Fall semesters where I wouldn't draw the characters for three months, so then when the newspaper started up again the characters usually ended up looking a little different just because it had been so long since I last drew them.

    There were some changes to the characters that were intentional though. I just found ways to streamline them and make them simpler to draw, while still being able to get expressions out of them. One of the conscious changes I made was to get rid of the noses. I just figured I didn't need them for anything. And in the end, I think it made them more cartoony looking, which I liked.

Sidra:

    Was it hard to come up with a daily comic?
Ruben DeLuna:
    It just depends on when you ask me. Some days ideas would just come to me and I could crank out two or three comic strips out of them. And then there are those days when I would waste entire afternoons just sitting around thinking of something to write about. I keep a notebook that I write down ideas in, so a lot of times the ideas were there, but it's sometimes hard to turn random funny ideas into a comic that makes sense. But there were always daily deadlines, so sometimes I just had to go with the best thing I could come up with for that day, even if I didn't particularly like it. It's definitely a tougher gig than people imagine, and I have a lot of respect for the pros who do it year round.

Sidra:

    What was the best part of creating Fish?
Ruben DeLuna:
    The comic strip just became such a daily part of my life that it really started functioning as an outlet for me. It became my way of venting my frustrations about the most ridiculous things. I'm not real big on school spirit, which is blasphemy at Texas A&M, so I never really felt like I fit in. In a weird way, doing this comic strip gave me a way to fit in this school's culture, because this way I was allowed to poke fun at traditions and not necessarily take everything so seriously. In a lot of ways, I don't think I would have enjoyed my time in college as much if I hadn't done the comic.

Sidra:

    What was the worst?
Ruben DeLuna:
    I'd probably say the worst thing was just the daily grind. As hard as I tried to get ahead on my comics, I would always end up having to crank one out each day. Sometimes it wasn't a time consuming thing, but on those writer's block days, creating the comic strip would take up time I probably should have spent studying. And as time went by and I got more and more people telling me they liked the comic, I felt like there was more of an expectation to be funny everyday. So I would put more pressure on myself to be funny and be harder on myself than what I should have been. Don't get me wrong, I think the higher expectations definitely helped me improve my writing and I don't regret the time I put in on the comic over the years...

    I just sometimes feel bad like I should have been studying or something.

Sidra:

    Now that you're graduating are you going to miss doing Fish?
Ruben DeLuna:
    I still don't think it has hit me that the comic is really over. I probably won't really realize it till the Fall semester starts and I'm not in the newspaper. Right now, I am still at A&M finishing up my thesis this summer, so it still just feels like I am on summer break. But yeah, I'll definitely miss doing "Fish". Like I said, it was just such a big daily part of my life that I got attached to the characters. But all in all, I know that it is time to move on, and I am just happy that I still felt I was doing high quality work and wasn't sick of the comic when it ended. I'm sure I will always look back fondly on the years I did the comic.

Sidra:

    You're currently publishing the archives of Fish. How would people interested in purchasing these archives go about buying them?
Ruben DeLuna:
    The book is available for sale in a couple different places. It can be ordered on my website www.rdeluna.com , or it can be purchased locally at the Texas A&M MSC Bookstore or Lytle's Comics and Games, a local comic bookshop.

Sidra:

    Are you planning on doing archives on all 5 years of Fish?
Ruben DeLuna:
    It's actually six years. The best of the first five years are what makes up the "Fish Out of Water" book. The final year, the last two semesters, will be featured in their entirety in a new upcoming book called "Gone Fishing". This new book should be available on my website www.rdeluna.com by the beginning of June. There really aren't any plans to combine all six years in one book in their entirety mainly because I think the two books cover everything I wanted them to cover.

Sidra:

    Do you have any further comic plans in the near future?
Ruben DeLuna:
    Well, I tried submitting "Fish" for syndication with a few major newspaper syndicates. I got rejection letters from most of them, but some positive feedback from one Editor. Mainly, he suggested revamping the comic. Make the look a bit more grown-up and professional, and pick some subject matter that's not so rooted in Texas A&M culture. So we'll see. I definitely can't see myself not doing another comic strip for the rest of my life. I'm sure I'll do it again in one form or another. Eventually maybe I'll even resubmit a new comic to the syndicates, but right now my focus has to be on getting my thesis done so I can graduate. :)


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